From http://www.ieee-cicc.org/Conference%20Events/panel.html Session 22 - Evening Panel Discussion Pine Ballroom, Tuesday, September 23, 8:00 pm Are (Analog) Device Models Really That Bad, Or Are They Just A Convenient Excuse? Organizer/Moderator: Peter Kinget, Columbia University Panelists: Yu-Tai Chia, Dept. Mgr, SPICE Modeling, TSMC Daniel Foty, President, Gilgamesh Associates Weidong Liu, Senior R&D Mgr., Mixed-Signal Simulation & TCAD, Synopsys Colin McAndrew, Director, Enabling Technology, Motorola Ali Niknejad, Professor, University of California, Berkeley Yannis Tsividis, Professor, Columbia University Pieter Vorenkamp, Sr. Director, Analog & RF Micro-Electronics, Broadcom Corp. The poor accuracy of device models is a constant complaint of circuit designers. Significant research has been done to improve device model equations which should alleviate these complaints. So, what is at the origin of this perpetual modeling debate? Are the logistics of model extraction and parameter generation too complicated so that the most advanced tools are not available to product designers? Is the pace of technology change too fast for stable models to emerge? Is the nature of our industry that we constantly push (past) the limit, so that this problem will never go away? Maybe the advantage of good circuit models is not significant enough towards the product success so that management does not want to put resources in modeling. Or, are the models just an easy excuse for missed deadlines and requirements?